tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post7884105780204151009..comments2023-07-08T06:12:35.415-04:00Comments on The Fragrant Muse: Anatomy of a Panic AttackLiz Fulcher, The Fragrant Musehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15745246662315569161noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-13857073559683000522010-02-03T19:43:36.582-05:002010-02-03T19:43:36.582-05:00Oh girl! I hear you! You are such a Libra. I reson...Oh girl! I hear you! You are such a Libra. I resonate with what you are saying of course. I laughed out loud over the car procrastination because "it's boring." Unfortunately, that is one of my biggest battles. If it isn't fun, I don't want to do it. And Libras are oh so talented at justifying almost anything we do. One of our charming shortcomings ;-)Stacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13082149072736061387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-19848607354410078242009-10-01T08:20:06.957-04:002009-10-01T08:20:06.957-04:00Liz, you have an abundant amount of self-awareness...Liz, you have an abundant amount of self-awareness to delve into the causes of your anxiety! I'm so grateful you sent me this link, and I can't wait to dive into that website and how I can abait my own. Thank you so much...I'm definitely coming back to poke around and see what other idea you've written about (I'm an aromatherapist and herbalist too!)<br /><br />See you soon,<br />WROWild Roaming One (WRO)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01762254175109500676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-18186713975056907362009-09-26T09:37:46.487-04:002009-09-26T09:37:46.487-04:00When I was reading your post on The Joy Diet, this...When I was reading your post on The Joy Diet, this post came up as one I may also want to read. I clicked on it immediately because I have panic attacks, too -- have since I was 15. My high school years were torture, and through a confluence of influences I've gotten to the point where I rarely have them. Like you, though, if I get out of balance one quickly shows up to let me know.<br /><br />Your description of how a panic attack feels is excellent. You're right; it's hard to describe that sense of <i>unreality</i> to someone who's never experienced it.<br /><br />I hope things are better now.LMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09160163335941092292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-60513615818666933552009-08-13T23:24:14.679-04:002009-08-13T23:24:14.679-04:00Dear Musie... hang in there it happens to us all a...Dear Musie... hang in there it happens to us all at some point in time. Take the opportunity to get yourself where you need to be, sounds like you're already getting straighted out. <br />You are so right to listen to your body, something that most of us aren't that good at, me especially. <br />Spud has the right idea, we'd so miss you if you weren't to blog at all, give yourself a little time every couple of days or so (like Fridays)!!!! <br />There's lots of good vibes coming your way..... besos!!!!!!McGillicuttyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06189766575346565435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-55377093439628226732009-08-13T16:29:39.056-04:002009-08-13T16:29:39.056-04:00Oh, honey, I'm sorry you've been through a...Oh, honey, I'm sorry you've been through all this... but I'm so impressed that you've instantly tried to do everything you could to make yourself better. You're truly inspiring. <br />We must learn to take care of ourselves, don't we? Why do we always put others first, until we have a wake up call?<br />Thank you so much for describing exactly how you felt. You're very brave and I hope this helps others (it's helping me!)<br />Please, keep blogging, but on your own terms and time, of course! :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04371082850268120153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-12896731207181538882009-08-13T02:35:57.423-04:002009-08-13T02:35:57.423-04:00oh my we have a LOT in common. i have used the Moo...oh my we have a LOT in common. i have used the Mood Cure and she is wonderful! the 5HTP was something i also did. i take fish oils daily-i recommend it. i hate the fear of panic almost as much as the thing itself, i know. i also do much better when i'm gluten free or only 10% gluten in my diet. this seems to have a connection to hormonal balance.<br />feel better,<br />maggieMaggie Mayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14699674732274478502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-32534992560406507012009-08-12T16:54:43.138-04:002009-08-12T16:54:43.138-04:00Liz, 'hope you are feelin better each day. ...Liz, 'hope you are feelin better each day. 'Just wanted you to know that you're still in my 'hopeful thots! ♥la pianistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633983315757411944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-79015214418229875952009-08-11T23:52:55.243-04:002009-08-11T23:52:55.243-04:00yep, that'd be enough to push me over the edge...yep, that'd be enough to push me over the edge. now, tho i'm not having any anxiety or panic attacks, i do need a kick in the drawstring pants to get up and exercise and cut the crap out of my diet. are you up for a challenge? ;) xoxoxoJanethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01360770142651924007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-51715422412939684432009-08-11T23:31:42.856-04:002009-08-11T23:31:42.856-04:00I can relate too. I get total full on panic attack...I can relate too. I get total full on panic attacks in line-ups. This deeply affects my life style. Shopping is a nightmare if there are line ups at the registers, I just can't get into one. I can't stand in line for food buffets, etc. etc. I take nothing and do nothing but avoid what I can. I have had these for nine years. Most people don't even know I get them.Delenahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05267264823175290041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-63048227302603434562009-08-11T23:28:24.186-04:002009-08-11T23:28:24.186-04:00I can appreciate you analysis of panic attacks bei...I can appreciate you analysis of panic attacks being your body's way of letting you know things have gotten too far out of balance. Great observation! Wonderful writing on a horrible condition. Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-87079333255356697662009-08-11T23:27:21.382-04:002009-08-11T23:27:21.382-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-54330199991974378402009-08-11T16:19:40.064-04:002009-08-11T16:19:40.064-04:00Anxiety disorders are astonishingly common. They ...Anxiety disorders are astonishingly common. They include Panic, Phobias (including Agoraphobia and Social Phobia), Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and Generalised Anxiety Disorder. For many people self-help is a viable way forward and this is why we wrote our book Free Yourself from Anxiety. We aim to show you, step-by-step, how to set up and follow an individually tailored self-help programme. <br /><br />Part one looks at lifestyle, because very often the way you live is contributing to Anxiety. By making simple changes you can get yourself fit and ready to tackle your Anxiety driven behaviours.<br /><br />Part two shows you how to challenge your Anxiety in a safe controlled way, by setting small goals that take you gradually towards letting go of anxious behaviours.<br /><br />Part three shows you how to recognise your anxious thinking, challenge it, and ultimately change it.<br /><br />Part four explains how to delve into some of the deeper issues that may be driving Anxiety. We also suggest where it might be appropriate for you to seek professional help.<br /><br />Our aim in this book is to be as comprehensive as possible. Each reader will be able to decide which aspects of the recovery programme they need to complete and which are not relevant to them. In addition we have only discussed proven safe techniques.<br /><br />Throughout the book we have used the words of Anxiety sufferers who are in various stages of recovery to illustrate our points <br /><br />The authors<br /><br />Emma Fletcher is a UK-registered counsellor with 20 years experience of helping anxiety sufferers and of training counsellors and volunteers on anxiety help-lines. She remains firmly committed to the self-help principle and believes that much of her work consists of giving her clients the tools to enable them to live more effectively. This book is an attempt to bring those tools to a wider audience.<br /><br />Martha Langley is a professional writer and journalist. She has more than 10 years experience as a volunteer on helplines for people dealing with Anxiety and has also been a one-to-one mentor and recovery group leader. This has given her an insight into the difficulties faced by people trying to put self-help techniques into practice. Her aim in Free Yourself from Anxiety was to explain these techniques, to explain the reasoning behind them, and to make practical suggestions that will give every reader the best chance of recovery.<br /><br />Free Yourself From Anxiety ISBN 978-1- 84528-311-7 is available from bookshops, book websites and Amazon US on<br />http://www.amazon.com/Free-Yourself-Anxiety-self-help-overcoming/dp/1845283112/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247762277&sr=8-4 or Amazon UK on<br />http://www.amazon.co.uk/Free-Yourself-Anxiety-Self-help-Overcoming/dp/1845283112/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1233135806&sr=1-1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-57045458097913734942009-08-11T13:30:10.898-04:002009-08-11T13:30:10.898-04:00Liz..I'm sorry you went through that, but am g...Liz..I'm sorry you went through that, but am glad you've taken steps to help the situation, you seem to be on top of it. The house project sounds great, and a little art room for you...well that's just awesome.<br />Hope things get better...<br />take careMari Mansourianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06003885344370531557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-8032628023925438432009-08-11T13:20:13.236-04:002009-08-11T13:20:13.236-04:00Oh, what a horrible feeling! I've quit jobs b...Oh, what a horrible feeling! I've quit jobs before that caused daily anxiety attacks but I don't know how I would handle it if it was something I couldn't get away from! Thank you for sharing this as I'm sure it will help others.Indiri Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07107905468709485217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-65799080588721157362009-08-11T13:02:52.179-04:002009-08-11T13:02:52.179-04:00Liz, I almost started crying when I read your post...Liz, I almost started crying when I read your post. I have very similar symptoms, especially in regard to feeling as though I have abruptly left my body. I tend to be very weak in my lower third chakras, as if I am ready to take flight at any moment. I am so impressed by your level of awareness. Can you imagine what it would be like if you were not so acutely aware of what's happening? My friend landed herself in the ER last week with numb and tingling arms, totally freaking out as she experienced her first panic attack. By sharing your feelings and experience, you have helped many. Peace and love to you as you realign yourself. Namaste, kitty.Kittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15308101220891195220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-55671100855721201842009-08-11T12:24:09.104-04:002009-08-11T12:24:09.104-04:00Well, I get this totally. I have dealt with a pre...Well, I get this <i>totally</i>. I have dealt with a pretty severe panic/anxiety disorder since I was a teeny kid, not diagnosed until I was in my 30s (everyone just thought I was really shy). It's bad enough that I have medication to deal with it. Mine always manifest themselves with belly stuff - I get unbelievably ill, and it can last a couple or 3 hours, and I am always convinced that I am going crazy. (Which - lol - sometimes makes me feel like well, <i>that'll</i> be okay - I'll get meds & I won't have to do anything but make baskets and wander around & smell flowers.) I am 55 & I have hit menopause - the anxiety has grown worse for the last few years, and finally, finally, I allowed my ob/gyn to talk me into estogen/progesterone therapy. It's been a tad over a week now (and I had to talk myself into taking the progesterone, terrified it would make me sick, thus triggering a panic attack.) It is amazing. My anxiety level is down immensely, and within 2 days I was able to cut my meds by 1/3. Obviously hormones were aggravating things immensely.<br /><br />My heart goes out to you - it takes forever to get over an attack; it sucks. You are doing things you need to do - you will be okay. And always remember that this too shall pass. Although I know it's hard to remember that when you're in the midst of an attack. I know every trick in the book, and sometimes they don't help, but usually they do. Hang in there.<br /><br />:) Debid smith kaich joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13450581639610967780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-698756879024880242009-08-11T10:46:19.939-04:002009-08-11T10:46:19.939-04:00Liz, you're an amazing woman. It's been ye...Liz, you're an amazing woman. It's been years since I've experienced anxiety to this extent; but I have experienced it and my heart goes out to you. Knowing what to do in such an instance is only half the healing; having the discipline to do it is the other. You my dear have both firmly in your grip and you'll be fine. What an example you are! Thanks for being generous enough to share the details so that others like us will know how to combat this foe. Take care of you and know that you are loved. ♥la pianistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633983315757411944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-2182788240155035412009-08-11T10:06:39.814-04:002009-08-11T10:06:39.814-04:00Thank you, each and every one of you! I feel like...Thank you, each and every one of you! I feel like I have a strong band of sisters here and your lack of judgement and loving support are amazing!<br /><br />It took a bit a courage to "bleed in public" like this and I've never actually put into words what happens when I have one of these beastly episodes. Luckily they are rare. But I am ever the teacher and if anyone can learn from my experiences then I'll share them.Liz Fulcher, The Fragrant Musehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15745246662315569161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-65577850708190640212009-08-11T09:52:07.308-04:002009-08-11T09:52:07.308-04:00Liz - this was so well written, and really detaile...Liz - this was so well written, and really detailed about what you've been through. Sending you lots of virtual hugs and hoping to be able to give your real ones soon!<br /><br />I am delighted to hear you woke up this morning with no anxiety! <br /><br />Sounds like you're back on track again by taking the steps you needed to take. You're so strong!<br /><br />I have been and will continue to keep you in my thoughts.Optimistic Pessimisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03629722877426063916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-37447105142822182812009-08-11T09:11:04.138-04:002009-08-11T09:11:04.138-04:00i actually know what you mean by that detached fee...i actually know what you mean by that detached feeling and it's the most awful thing you can experience. glad you are better and things are balancing out.Jelicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903146833019745969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-28204862198046143422009-08-11T09:03:21.197-04:002009-08-11T09:03:21.197-04:00I don't have any advise on this one, Liz. Bec...I don't have any advise on this one, Liz. Because I can relate to some of it. But, not all of it.<br /><br />And, it sounds like it was an exercise in seeing yourself once again...instead of always looking at everything else instead. <br /><br />Not the best way to go at it, but Spirit gets our attention the quickest way when we need to pay attention.<br /><br />So, look-it...you started blogging because it was supposed to be fun and interesting....once it seems like a job? Best to let it go.<br /><br />I don't think you're leaning that way...just sifting through everything that is part of your day and deciding how to weight it all.<br /><br />As for me? I'd miss you. You've taught me so much in such a short time I've been here.<br /><br />I like Spudballoo's notion.<br /><br />And, I think all of us are beginning to understand the toxic nature of being available via so many different electronic means. I'm fairly certain we weren't created for that sort of constant access. <br /><br />At the same time, I don't know what the cure or answer is for this world we now find ourselves living.<br /><br />Hugs to you and Reiki energy winging its way.Hollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10972581158834240144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-7695521024946472432009-08-11T08:56:56.534-04:002009-08-11T08:56:56.534-04:00I'd noticed that you've been missing from ...I'd noticed that you've been missing from the blogosphere a bit. Sounds like you hit a rough patch, but in my opinion, the first step is realizing what the root of the problem is and taking steps to fix it, and it sounds like you're doing that brilliantly. I hope that everything calms down--I think the home organizer is a great idea. Sending hugs your way!Fidgeting Gidgethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03903926675948152931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-51265851784022293172009-08-11T08:16:11.146-04:002009-08-11T08:16:11.146-04:00oh honey, I'm weeping for you :-( it sounds aw...oh honey, I'm weeping for you :-( it sounds awful. I can't cope AT ALL with the sort of situation you described, I'm just not programmed to be flexible and let stuff like that wash over me (as MrSpud can, he's a brilliant 'grounder' for me like that). Thus I have no option but to be SUPER organised, I just HAVE to keep on top of deadlines, bills, stuff to be done, house tidy, cupboards sorted etc etc. Because I throw wobblers and make everyone feel awful if life gets on top of me. <br /><br />I've got to figure out a way to spend less time online though. I love it, but it's tipping in to a bit of an addiction and is eating in to time I'd like to spend reading, taking photos, processing them, learning to sew etc. Hmmm. But how to? I feel so plugged in to blogging now, and flickr. <br /><br />Anyway KUDOS to you for tackling it all so assertively and getting fast results too. You must feel so much better about everything. <br /><br />My quick win tip; ditch twitter. It's kind of fun but you can 'waste' so much time there. I like twitter for journeys, when the children are doing something that doesn't require me but I need half an eye on them etc. Otherwise it's a time sapper I reckon. <br /><br />Go through your reader and ruthlessly chuck out anyting that doesn't consistently inspire you/make you laugh/you learn from. Get it down to a really manageable amount and set a daily amount for comments like, 5 a day. You really don't have to comment on everything, I know it's nice to. <br /><br />Or set a daily 'internet' allowance? <br /><br />Hugs to you honey, lots of change going on but all the things you are doing are positive. <br /><br />Wish you lived nearer, say, round the corner? Will you email me your address? I'd like to send you something xxxspudballoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12433420925135653667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4496787242376381641.post-83104950416373469092009-08-11T08:04:07.963-04:002009-08-11T08:04:07.963-04:00have that vague sense of anxiety today, but can...have that vague sense of anxiety today, but can't really get to the bottom of what it's all about...but it's definitely keeping me from doing anything productive. tried going for a long walk, eating something healthy (non-carb), and tried to figure out what it is, but it hasn't come to me yet. i do have faith that it will and there's been no panic, just a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach. but that's bad enough, frankly...and i hope it leaves soon!!!<br /><br />i guess we just have to hang in there, eh? i admire how you took steps immediately to turn it around. that's inspiring.julochkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10884096685015570257noreply@blogger.com